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Ja das stimmt. Der 2. Tag war deutlich besser als der 1. Tag, am besten haben mir Dunne und Bate gefallen.
Aber Match des Turniers war für mich: Pete Dunne vs. Mark Andrews !!!

 

So toll wie es scheinen mag. Mich interessiert das Turnier nicht die Bohne. Ich stelle mir auch die Frage, ob es das gebraucht hat.
Soll das regelmäßig stattfinden ? Muss ja durch den Titel oder....

Warum man diese Talente nicht gut in Stories in den MainShows einbaut, bleibt mir ein Rätsel. Man hat so viele Leute, aber für jedes Ding ne eigene Show. So vergeht keine lange Weile. Denn zum hundertsten Mal Owens vs. Reigns naja.

Warum nicht einfach "UK-Underdogs" gegen Main-Stars antreten und so für Überraschungen sorgen (wie früher 1-2-3-Kid vs. Razor Ramon wer sich noch dran erinnern kann). Sowas wäre wieder so genial.
Kreativ sieht anders aus

Naja ich freu mich trotzdem auf den Rumble !!

Verspreche mir einiges davon, auch wenn es vorhersehbar scheint

Durch diese "Verschwendung" der Stars, hab ich mittlerweile die MainShows gar nicht mehr gesehen seit letztes Jahr (glaube Oktober oder so). 205Live ist leider auch nur unter Wert und dahin geklatscht.
Frage mich wozu der Draft war, denn wirklich neue Begegnungen gibts gar nicht, sondern NUR dieselben die aufeinander treffen. Daher reichen die PPV dicke aus zur Zeit. Und man wird nicht so übersättigt.

Nur NXT schaue ich wirklich regelmäßig, weil mir das echt stets gut gefällt und unterhält

 

WWE steht kurz davor, mit diversen Ligen im United Kingdom Partnerschaften einzugehen und deren Events auf dem WWE Network zu übertragen. Mit der schottischen ICW scheint man sich bereits einig zu sein, die Rede ist von einer Vereinbarung über zwei bis drei Jahre. PROGRESS Wrestling und OTT, die alle auch beim UK Tournament präsent waren, sollen folgen, aktuell ist man wohl in Verhandlungen. Unwahrscheinlich hingegen scheint eine Vereinbarung mit RevPro, da die eine bestehende Kooperation mit Ring Of Honor und New Japan haben und regelmäßig die Wrestler von denen einsetzen. RevPro hatte wohl auch ein Angebot von FloSlam vorliegen, aber die haben dann abgelehnt. Der Verantwortliche von RevPro hat WWE wohl mitgeteilt, dass man sich jedes Angebot gerne anhören wird, aber eben aufgrund der Loyalität zu New Japan eine Übereinkunft unwahrscheinlich erscheint. Unklar bleibt auch die Sache, wie die Ligen dann mit TNA-Wrestlern weiterarbeiten werden, wenn die Shows auf dem Network laufen.

Laut Dave Meltzer soll der Deal mit ICW über drei Jahre laufen. Auch soll die Vereinbarung "interessante Klauseln" beinhalten, auf die Meltzer aber nicht näher eingegangen ist. Ebenfalls soll WWE Interesse an Pro Wrestling Eve haben, die ausschließlich Women's Wrestling im UK zeigen und viele Japanerinnen einfliegen lassen. Auch hätte man dann Zugriff auf Material von Nixon Newell, Paige und Nikki Cross, die alle dort schon angetreten sind. Am Video-Archiv von SHIMMER soll seitens WWE ebenfalls Interesse bestehen, weil viele ehemalige SHIMMER-Damen bei WWE unter Vertrag sind.

Anbei der Text von PWInsider im Original:


Since Tyler Bate captured the WWE UK championship this past weekend, the big question has been what is next for WWE and the UK scene?

Well, what is next is a lot of changes, both for WWE and the European wrestling scene.

As we broke on Monday afternoon in the Elite section of PWInsider.com, the landscape of the WWE Network ix expected change as all signs are that Scotland's Insane Championship Wrestling will soon debut as programming on the WWE Network and that other promotions could follow. The belief is that ICW has a multi-year deal (depending on who is talking, the deal is believed to be 2 or 3 years) and that PROGRESS Wrestling in Great Britain and potentially others will soon follow.

The move is one that WWE has been discussing internally since last year, with the idea of adding independent wrestling material to a new tier of the WWE Network that would be available for a higher price point (believed to be $14.99) with discussions internally within WWE about everything from licensing indy content that has television to paying for promotions to create content. We are told feedback and viewing numbers for last weekend's the UK Championship Tournament were going to be a strong factor in determining how WWE moved forward with that plan. With the WWE Network about to hit it's three year anniversary next month, it makes sense that an announcement could be timed sometime soon.

Over the course of last weekend, the talk overseas was that WWE had all but completed a deal with Mark Dallas' Insane Championship Wrestling. The belief is that it's weekly "Fight Club" series would migrate to the WWE Network and air via VOD with disclaimers and a parental warning on the content, similar to WWE Attitude Era material and the original ECW. Fight Club currently streams on the Fite App, but the belief among many over the past week is that a deal is completed and could be announced at any point. There is no word whether the deal would also bring the company's major events, such as their annual Fear and Loathing show, which was carried via streaming platforms last year, to the WWE Network as well.

The step forward is a major one for WWE as they could not only be a content producer on the WWE Network but would take a step towards being a content distributor. All the talk of WWE being a monopoly could be shut down by WWE simply pointing to smaller promotions that they work with - and pay for - as a way to show that they are not elbowing everyone else out of the equation. Now, not only would they get to sign and groom talent but they would have the ability to curate independent wrestling by legitimizing the promotions that are streamed on their Network. The WWE connection pretty much saved WWNLive, which was slowly dying on the vine, but legitimizing it to an entirely new group of fans that discovered it and began supporting it. WWE can do that for any independent promotion it decides to showcase on their Network - and there isn't an independent promotion in existence that doesn't want the rub from WWE. WWE means the greatest potential revenue and when you are an independently funded company, it isn't often you are finding the greatest potential revenue in your coffers at the end of the month.

The deals with ICW and PROGRESS make a lot of sense from the WWE perspective. They are two distinctly different promotions that utilize a lot of the talent that appeared on the UK Championship Tournament and each have a lot of buzz of their own. While undoubtedly WWE will look to continue to run their own branded material in Great Britain - after all, Triple H himself said that the plan here was to have a weekly series out of the UK - forging deals with ICW and other promotions will give WWE partner promotions that can showcase the talents who were signed to the WWE UK contracts. WWE can easily have Tyler Bate defending his UK championship in partner promotions as they work out plans for their own weekly series on the Network.

There have been discussions of all sorts of other promotions potentially being part of the WWE Network, but the one that has been primarily discussed beyond ICW has been The UK's PROGRESS Wrestling, which is believing to be in discussions with WWE currently. What makes that interesting is the timing that PROGRESS will be making its United States debut over Wrestlemania weekend in Orlando, Florida as part of the WWNLive.com events there with a number of talents from the UK Championship tournament already announced. There are also plans for an EVOLVE vs. PROGRESS event that weekend, obviously on Flosports' streaming service.

What will also be interesting in the months to come is that PWInsider.com has heard that WWE's contracts with UK talents that appeared on the UK Championship Tournament will prevent those talents from appearing on streaming material that would be considered opposition to the WWE Network (Flosports immediately comes to mind here), so there will be changes to the UK scene because of this. We will start to see contractual obligations and promotional boundaries appear that the local UK scene did not have to deal with prior to 2017. Sure, there were always promotional rivalries but this will be an entirely different animal. There are absolutely going to be cases where Tyler Bate, for example, can no longer appear for promotion X because Promotion X is going to be streamed live. After all, WWE is not going to have their contracted talent appearing on opposing streamed events. We've seen that already. When WWE talents appear at EVOLVE, they aren't on the EVOLVE iPPV broadcasts. So, there will be talents who won't be able to appear for certain promotions beyond dark segments and that will start to change things for those promotions in terms of talents they will be willing to book and how those talents can be utilized when they are booked. So, things will be changing locally in the scene.

It's important to note that both ICW and PROGRESS have existing on demand subscription channels, so it will be interesting to see if they are maintained and continue to be updated or if WWE deals will mean the end of those platforms for either of those promotions or any others who sign up with WWE.

The other promotion that is major to the scene that has been talked about a lot when it comes to a potential WWE deal is Over the Top Wrestling in Ireland. OTT promoter Joe Cabray was in attendance at the first night of the WWE UK championship tournament, but beyond a buzz locally that a deal is imminent, we have yet to hear that there has been any actual offer. It should be noted that OTT had been working with Flosports on a per-event basis, so if they continue on with that deal, it's likely WWE contracted talents will no longer be able to appear on OTT iPPVs. The promotion - and any others that want to work with WWE - will have to weigh the positives and negatives of having access to WWE talents and the money that will come with a WWE partnership vs. the ability to remain completely independentand making money via other platforms, their own or a third party like Flosports, while also losing access to a number of talents they have been regularly using.

While there have been rumors of Rev Pro (which will be running it's own debut event in the United States as part of Wrestlecon in April), we are told that they were not part of the current discussions with WWE.

It's also important to point out that we are told by multiple sources that ITV, coming off their 12/31 two hour pilot broadcast, is currently trying to formulate what their plan is for the World of Sports revival as they have had discussions of doing a weekly series in both a one hour and a two hour format, as well as potentially doing quarterly specials. Once the financials are worked out (we are told that there is no final decision even made on where the series might air), the plan is to try and offer talents contracts for that series if and when it is officially picked up, which means that those contracts will only make things even more complicated for the UK scene. The ITV pilot led to WWE pushing their plans for the UK tournament up several months and certainly there will be talents that play two ends - WWE and ITV - against the middle to see where they can get the best possible deal.

So, the scene may be going from one where everyone could work for anyone they want to a scene riddled with obstacles due to where talents are signed, where those talents can appear, who talents can face, who they can lose to, etc. It could very easily become very complicated. That's what happens when competition arises. While it's a completely different animal on a greater scale, it reminds me a lot of the Philadelphia indy war of the early 2000s.

Over the last several years, the European scene has gone from an under-reported and underestimated source of great professional wrestling talent to becoming ground zero for one of the biggest stories as we enter 2017. What has been a golden age for the UK, Ireland, Scotland and other countries will soon evolve and change - it will be impossible to predict every move and how every ripple effect will play out, but as Bob Dylan famously sang, indeed, "times they are a-changing."

 

Sollte sowas alles erweitert werden, sollte man sich auch auf einen Preisanstieg einstellen. Denke ich zumindest. Ich kann mir einfach nicht vorstellen, wenn man sogar noch Ligen dazu holt, dass es bei rund 10 Dollar bleibt.
Gerechtfertigt ist es allemal, aber ich höre schon das Gejammer

 

Wäre schon ne coole Sache. Die WWE hatte vor Jahren schon mal vor, lauter Nationale kleine Ligen zu starten. Und mit dem Network kann man die Arbeit anderen überlassen, bietet für kleine Ligen einen Plattform wo die Shows gesehen werden können und hat eine gute Talentschmiede.

9,99 Dollar kann man eh nicht ewig halten, denke schon das der Preis in den nächsten Jahren steigen wird. Aber bei 50 Dollar je PPV ist das sicherlich verkraftbar.

 

Kommt Royal Rumble heute Nacht oder Morgen nacht ?

 

Morgen Nacht

 

Und nicht vergessen, der Rumble dauert jetzt auch 4 Stunden, also Kickoff um 23h, Rumble um 1 Uhr.

 

Royal Rumble Time
hatte aber gelesen das die Kickoff Show um 0:00 beginnt.

Heute Nacht kommt zudem NXT Takeover.
Wird bestimmt wieder eine gute Show.

Der Rumble könnte auch einer der besseren werden.
Zum einen die wirklich guten Champion Kämpfe
Owens - Reigns und Styles - Cena.

Der Rumble hat zudem ein gutes Teilnehmerfeld + erwarte ich 1-2 Überraschungen (Angle? Balor?? Shawn ).
Schön ist jedenfalls das ich wirklich keine Ahnung habe wer den Rumble gewinnen wird.
Klar hängt es ein bisschen von den Titel Kämpfen ab, aber so Ahnungslos...schön

Bei wünsch dir was, wäre es Bray Wyatt
ok, der wird es eher nicht.
Cesaro...auch Chancen im unteren einstelligen Bereich
Undertaker - schon realistischer
Jericho
Goldberg
Lesnar
einer der Überraschungs-Teilnehmer
....
lets get ready to Ruuuuuummmmmbbbblleeeeee

 

Garantiert 23h, die 6 Damen wurden auch noch da reingepackt, wäre mit einer Stunde sehr knapp.

Große Vorfreude, weil wirklich viel passieren kann. Ich denke nicht, daß Owens und Styles beide als Champ zu WM reisen, also passiert morgen was, oder in der Chamber. Goldberg und Lesnar kann man ausschließen, da gibts eher eine Nummer wie 92 zwischen Hogan und Sid, um das Match für WM vorzubereiten, auch wenn das natürlich keinerlei Aufbau braucht. Der Taker brauchte noch nie einen Titel und jetzt auch nicht. Der wird eher gegen den bei WM antreten, von dem er rausgeworfen wird, vielleicht Strowman. Bei WM sehe ich Jericho vs Owens und Orton vs Wyatt. Das könnte über den Sieg beim Rumble laufen, wenn Owens verteidigt bzw. wenn Orton oder Wyatt gewinnt und der andere dann in der Chamber Champ wird.